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user123

i hope justice is done chris but i still believe you should not have left the house so easy. you should have started lifting tiles to get YOUR adhesive back. i'm sure he would have seriously thought about paying you then. good luck with it mate

Bit difficult though when there was already a police complaint about a non-existing assault! To me that's the most upsetting thing of all, what a grotty evil trick to pull ... :thumbsdown: Adding vandalism to someone's private property wouldn't have helped at all... keep thinking about it... you've got us all rooting for you, Chris... what a shocker.
 
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Mike

smashing the tiles would have been vandalism but carefully removing them to retain your own property (addy and grout) would have been ok. i had an incident with a bad next door neighbour were they removed my edgings from my garden cos they didn't llike the look of them. i called the police who said it was a civil matter and as there's no damage to the edgings there's nothing they could do. i waited till they went away for the weekend and laid them again with re bar through them and fast drying concrete, result :lol::lol:
 
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Gazrus

Ouch, Sorry to hear, I too had to read ya post several times before it sunk in.:mad2::mad2:

Its typical of the way this country is heading, personally I would send the boys around, but this scumbag sounds like he knows exactly what he is doing, so ya gotta tread careful & as mentioned by others, from a distance.
The missus read it too & she was gobsmacked too she said same as Pebbs suggested, send final invoice registered post.
Hopefully will get sorted.
As for ya so-called mate, he'd be getting a clip big style.

Good luck with it marra
 

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Why does the vindictive hackles on my neck start twitching when I re-read this.

If no above board methods are suitable, I (and this is just my view) would be taking slightly dodgy methods to cost them more in the long run.

As I said............this is my view, because I just cannot stand this sort of thing.
 
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Pebbs

Why does the vindictive hackles on my neck start twitching when I re-read this.

If no above board methods are suitable, I (and this is just my view) would be taking slightly dodgy methods to cost them more in the long run.

As I said............this is my view, because I just cannot stand this sort of thing.

I second this emotion, its not vindictive, its fighting fire with fire, when something is so wrong, a piece of paper doesnt hit the spot. This scumbag would have been given a good clump a few years ago...and learnt his lesson.

Lynn
 
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steve187

Ouch, Sorry to hear, I too had to read ya post several times before it sunk in.:mad2::mad2:

Its typical of the way this country is heading, personally I would send the boys around, but this scumbag sounds like he knows exactly what he is doing, so ya gotta tread careful & as mentioned by others, from a distance.
The missus read it too & she was gobsmacked too she said same as Pebbs suggested, send final invoice registered post.
Hopefully will get sorted.
As for ya so-called mate, he'd be getting a clip big style.

Good luck with it marra
As stated above i would send a 7 day to pay final bill by recorded delivery, on the 8th day again by recorded delivery send a ''if not paid within 5 days the matter will go to small claims court''.

I would also write on a piece of paper or a notebook that you carry, the conversation you had with him at the time, as clear as you remember it, in a
''I said this'' = ............................ and
''he said that'' = ............................
fashion, also include what the police said, the fuller the conversation the better, this could be used in a court as a true conversation, a bit like police notes made at the time. the sooner you make the notes the better, (made at the time after the police left would have been the 'best evidence'), dated and timed the 'best evidence', you could include a copy of these 'made at the time notes' with your second letter about the court action, when you send it, but this could pre-warn him that you have the notes, so needs thinking about. He will not have notes made at the time, so the court should accept your version as more accurate.

I think he would have committed 'obtaining service by deception' under the theft act. or a similar offence, so may be worth speaking to local police and if possible CID, but they may be lough to take action, but it would counteract the fact that he called the police about threatening behaviour.

Don't let him get away with it, some sort of insurance to cover this sort of thing, could be worth looking into as a group cover.

all the best
steve.
 
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CJ CERAMICS

Again i have to say a big thank you to you all for your support, the thought of repaying this customer with kind so that it costs him more than the job was worth has certainly crossed my mind on more than one occasion, but is not really something that i will do as knowing me i will get it all wrong anyway.

the good news for now is that my solictor friend of mine has constructed a nice letter and invoice for me and sent it to the customer explaining that if full payment is not made then court proceedings will actioned against him, using the 2 police officers who attended his call as witness's to the fact the work was completed and to a satisfactory standard. This is as he says just a scare tactic to hopefully push him to pay, but has on other occasions worked successfully. He is not going to charge me anything for this......but did ask if his son could be captain for football on saturday lol.

chris
 

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LMAO. And Captain he shall be. :thumbsup:

G'wan lad. Take him to the cleaners.

Keep in touch with your solicitor. I'd consider making his kid captain for the next few weeks even if nothing important is going on with the situation (like waiting for replies or whatever).
 
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user123

Again i have to say a big thank you to you all for your support, the thought of repaying this customer with kind so that it costs him more than the job was worth has certainly crossed my mind on more than one occasion, but is not really something that i will do as knowing me i will get it all wrong anyway.

the good news for now is that my solictor friend of mine has constructed a nice letter and invoice for me and sent it to the customer explaining that if full payment is not made then court proceedings will actioned against him, using the 2 police officers who attended his call as witness's to the fact the work was completed and to a satisfactory standard. This is as he says just a scare tactic to hopefully push him to pay, but has on other occasions worked successfully. He is not going to charge me anything for this......but did ask if his son could be captain for football on saturday lol.

chris

I am SO rooting for you in this ... it would be nice to know that injustices can be fought without resorting to taking the law into your own hands... good good luck :thumbsup:
 

Dan

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Me too. We tend to deal with most of our issues out of court. Both parties always understand it's costly and neither normally have bad intentions.

Which is why I sort of suspect this guy is some type of law guy, solicitor, CPS, police maybe? You know what he does for a living mate?
 

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