Please Help! Problem with Porcelain Floor Tiles - Wobbly

[Scott]

There should be a Rouge Tiler section on this forum, where people can leave details to name and shame so other's don't use these cowboy's. Mind you, if people came here first, then with the experts we have around here people many not get into this mess in the first place.

Anyway, I hope you get a good outcome from this Milly. Good luck.

A rouge traders section? As in the french for RED? OR do you men a Rogue traders! Unfortunately that isnt how we work ont he forum and naming and shaming someone can carry some hefty consequences, therefore we only post the pictures and no personal details of who did it.

The method of fixing is jut one of the errors. The adhesive should be troweled onto the floor and the tile bedded into it so the WHOLE of the back of the tile is covered by adhesive. However all that is academic if the substrate is poorly prepared.

 

[Gazrus]

So basically he has used:-
Incorrect thickness of plywood.
Failed to use a SLC or adhesive to completely cover the UFH.
Used a dot & dab method to fix the tiles.

Makes my blood boil when I see jobs like this, hope you get it sorted

 

[jay]

is the pic one of the times he came to fix up his problems when he removed tiles

 

[Milly]

Thanks everyone. No that pic was taken when he was laying the tiles originally.


So - how should tiles be laid? So I know what to look for next time.

 

[Scott]

Any idea why the adhesive is flat and what the grey lines are?

Edit: Its ok i just downloaded the pic for a better look

 

[Scott]

But there are some that have been grouted. If you werent living there at the time then i think he has taken these up and tried to relay them. There are 2 lots of adhesive, grey and then white over the top. The adhesive is flat and not in 'lumps' as it would be using his method and the tiles have already been grouted.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Hi Milly

The effect your tiler should have been getting if he was trowelling the adhesive on to the floor is demonstrated here in this post in a different thread (courtesy of our forum colleague 365 Drills)
http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/45530-my-tiler-dabbing-2.html#post468857

 

[mikethetile]

milly

in answer to your question the correct way to do this would have been a minimum of 15mm over laid wbp ply with a movement joint where the different subsrates met, the boards would have required priming to topside and underside

ufh bedded in addy or self leveling compound , the tiles fixed on a serrated bed of adhesive to the floor and each tile back skimmed to ensure a 100% solid bed fixing

as for the legal side

yes you do want recompense, but the full cost of ripping out and redoing not just your money back, im in the process of suing someone and its not as straight forward as it was, trading standards are right and have the letter templates on their site, but if these get no result then seek advice from your solicitoras you now have to follow a certain path into court and give him every oppurtunity to respond and rectify

 

[hillhead]

Hello Milly, unfortunately we are seeing more of this type of workmanship going on these days.
Wrong thickness and possibly grade of plywood(needs primed edges and undeerside),
UFH wires not covered with leveling compound,
Tiles not laid properly as in dot and dabbed by looks and very heavy bedding.
This all adds up to a disaster for sure, full rip out needed and legal route followed.
A proper independent report will crucify this so call tiler(cowboy).
I hope you get this sorted Milly.
Joe.
A

 

[Milly]

Thanks. How much would it cost approx. To get it all stripped out and redone? Area is 50sq ft.