somebody help me

[stevee]

hiya peeps, ive always considered myself master of the queens english

lightning fast silver tongue has served me well

but one situation crops up repeatedly and i need help from likeminded

when i go to price some jobs im greeted with

"ive already PVA the floor for you" .........or

"ive already PLY the shower wall "

the problem is when i try to explain this isnt good ,they allways say........

people have done it that way for years..... bearing in mind i go to look at a fair few regout jobs,which i know theyre gonna tell me theres ply behind the tiles

ive stopped doing these regrouts now

so i need a similie to come back at em with like "people have been using WHATEVER for years ,but now dont because of whatever


any ideas,cos im stumped,cheers steve

 

[Ian]

Materials and techniques have progressed immensely over the last 10 years and just because something was right once doesn't make it the best method today. We'll all be sat here in 10 years saying, 'why did we used to use those cement boards?!!!!'

 

[bobbin]

There are various printouts you can provide for evidence against using pva.
The other option is to get them to sign a disclaimer stating you will not be held responsible for any issues because of it. If they are adamant that that pva is fine and has been for years they will have no issues with signing a disclaimer.

At the end of the day it's your reputation on the line. If they won't listen as they know best, it's your judgement at the end of the day. You know what is the right way of doing this and this sets you above the cowboys out there. Stick to your guns pal

 

[Mike]

years ago tiles were generally smaller and lighter so certain materials were capable of being used in conjunction with them but these days in most circumstances are inefficient for the job. E.g. years ago tubbed adhesive was 'ok' to be used in wet areas but now we wouldn't think of it. just because we got away with it years ago doesn't make it right to do it that way again, especially now as we know better. the internet has surely helped peoples knowledge on correct procedures too

 

[doug boardley]

tell them that the world is now a smaller place and the import/export industry is thriving, Britain is importing crap plywood, but holding on to it's equally crap PVA until a suitable market is found for it!:lol::lol:

 

[stevee]

thats more like it doug!!!!

 

[Daz]

Condoms used to be made from animal bladder or intestine and you could wash them out and re-use, but you wouldn't dream of that nowadays.

Knowledge evolves, technology changes and techniques develop.

Enforce best practice or walk away is my motto.

Good luck,

Daz

 

[Rich]

We used to use asbestos,
We used to drink mercury as medicine,
We used to hunt witches,
we used to be prescribed cigarettes for lung problems,
we used to listen to ABBA,
We used to drive god awful cars,
We used to fancy our partners!!

Things change and everything moves on, usually for the better. Feel free to take your pick from the above