Two bathrooms in...attempted twice by

[cam_low]

A plumber then a supposed tiler. The man was nearly in tears on the phone. I didn't manage to get the full story as I was on the a1 up home. It's his mothers bathroom, I feel sick having to ask him for money knowing he's lost out twice.

More to come on Monday evening on this one.

 

[White Room]

Looking forward to the pics, hate it when I here storys like that....

 

[DHTiling]

It is all too common story now, so so many cowboys or wannabe's out there..... taken in by talking a good job but when it comes down to it, they cannot walk the walk..

 

[cam_low]

Will this ever come to a head where you need to be 'gas safe' so to speak ? How can we action this ?

 

[DHTiling]

Shoooot them all :lol:

 

[Ajax123]

I certainly hope im right in thinking Tiling will never become a regulated trade like electrics and gas because I is not seen as life threatening if it is done wrong. I for one would object anyway. I am perfectly capable of tiling my own stuff so why should I get a pro in to do it. Why should I be regulated out of one it... Making buyers .( clients etc.) more aware of what to look for would be acceptable and a guild style system would be great, like the federation of master builders etc....

 

[DHTiling]

It is not tiling to regulate alan.. it is wet areas , make it law to tank said areas , insurance comps would welcome it i am sure ... but the best thing is to introduce permits... any alteration work must require a permit.. and this should do away with the cash in hand i can do that cowboys...

 

[cam_low]

Yes Dave that's more like what I was thinking as they do in Canada. For any works a permit is required.

 

[destroyer2813]

It is not tiling to regulate alan.. it is wet areas , make it law to tank said areas , insurance comps would welcome it i am sure ... but the best thing is to introduce permits... any alteration work must require a permit.. and this should do away with the cash in hand i can do that cowboys...

You not seen Holmes on homes still plenty of bodge ups happen over there even with the permit system

 

[mcarthurtiling]

I think people are taking in by these plumbers who say they can do it all and it means less hassle for the customer or the plumber to find a tiler ive been called out to many a job that a plumber/ tiler has made a mess of.

 

[DGJ]

I'd say that they are more genreal builders than plumbers to be fair, just because they bend a bit of 15mm and know how to solder doesn't make them plumbers

There will always be people doing bodge jobs, as long as some customers want every thing for nothing and hire the cheapest without doing their homework

 

[Perry]

You not seen Holmes on homes still plenty of bodge ups happen over there even with the permit system

In the USA at the moment watching HGTV this morning the pro was screwing and plugging sterling board onto a concrete floor then sticking ditra down with cement based adhesive saying that it would take up any flex :yikes:

 

[Martyn Leeds]

Sounds a bit like my job I've just started. Customer had a new bathroom done in January. Worst job I've ever seen. She said it was tile-on-tile... she didn't tell me it was 4 layers of tile!!!
and 4 layers on the wet shower floor too.

 

[charlie1]

Some advice from myself to any general public looking for a professional to do work in your house. Client need to wise up in this day age, if I'm spending lets say 500 quid on a pro doing something to my house then I want to get recommendations and portfolio, then I would want a detailed explanation of exactly what the where going to do with an itemised price. Lastly, have your bs alert on full for duration of job, avoid idle chit chat about the kids of that your doing at the weekend, limit all conversations to the job in hand. Look out for red flags, time keeping, untidiness, unprofessionalism.

 

[DHTiling]

You not seen Holmes on homes still plenty of bodge ups happen over there even with the permit system

I know what you mean but we could make a better permit system, regulate it correctly and it would work... it is just how to set such a system up to prevent loop holes and cowboys getting around legal registration for such a scheme..

 

[peteablard]

Some advice from myself to any general public looking for a professional to do work in your house. Client need to wise up in this day age, if I'm spending lets say 500 quid on a pro doing something to my house then I want to get recommendations and portfolio, then I would want a detailed explanation of exactly what the where going to do with an itemised price. Lastly, have your bs alert on full for duration of job, avoid idle chit chat about the kids of that your doing at the weekend, limit all conversations to the job in hand. Look out for red flags, time keeping, untidiness, unprofessionalism.

I would say this works against us, I always try and enter into conversations about other stuff. I did a latex job for a builder last week and got talking to the client. Turns out he's a very well connected local business man, his company sponsors a rider in the British Superbikes. He's got huge business premises that always need work doing and then asked for a few cards that he could give to people. A bit of networking like that can work wonders and lead to loads of future work.

 

[cam_low]

okay here we go peeps. I was expecting more of a horror show but its still bad.

 

[White Room]

Not good, total rip out then....again.

 

[cam_low]

I told the guy I would sort it for him, the rest of the house has been immaculately decorated and it turns out the decorator is the adviser on a trusted tiler. In my eyes that makes him liable but would it stand up in court ?

He wants it sorted to sell and I said I would do it right and leave him happy. He's been passed onto from a previous job. Customer happy. He dumped a set of keys in my hands and said get on with it. Nice bloke, my type of bloke.

I am getting sick of ripping out rubbish though.

 

[cam_low]

Took a couple tiles off tonight to show the plasterer what's what. Can anyone (bar mr tiler ) tell me what's right here!!!!