Wikileak

[Dan]

That was weird. I couldn't get to page 3 then I clicked the 3 link and ended up on page 2 still?!?! :lol:

 

[brian c]

This guy from Wikileak's life aint worth living.

 

[Scott]

So is the rape and sex allegations true or conspiracy to discredit him? Either way he is gonna get plenty in nick

 

[Dan]

:lol:

Apparently when he first launched the website one girl came forward and said he raped her. Then as that didn't get him back in the country another one has. They're girls he has slept with but with consent, and he denies raping them and they don't have much evidence to go off either. I think what's happening is Sweden (I keep saying switzerland but it's sweden I think? - I've confused myself again!) are trying to get him over there and then once he's there the USA will try to get him over their where he'll be held and questions for months as they want him to tell them his sources. Who are mostly military people I think, including Bradley Manning who's still in US military prison.

Whilst he's in the UK he won't get sent to the US. Though if he goes to sweden it's possible. So he's appealing his refusal of bail and may get out over here. If he doesn't, he'll push the fact that he thinks it's political and there is a claws in the law that enables him to be extradited that states that if it's for political reasons he doesn't have to go. So his solicitors are pushing that.

He's only gone to magistrates court so they're not really treating it seriously. I think they'd have bailed him if it wasn't a high profile case.

See what happens during the week.

Whatever happens 100,000 media corporations have encrypted copy's of ALL the documents he's ever been given and all names are in those documents, and the news will get out. All the lies we've been told and all the truth they've hidden from us. And that's a good thing IMO.

 

[brian c]

he is a dead man walking Dan!

 

[Dan]

Ahhh, probably but the news will still get out.

A bit of an update if you're not following it and you do give a damn :lol:

A hackers groups called Anonymous are targeting all the service providers that have pulled the plug on supplying wikileaks, Mastercard and paypal have been hit and mastercard's website (therefore their securecode service that is used when you pay with MC on any online store) is only online around 50% of the time. The group from the bulletin board 4chan (I wouldn't visit that if I were you!) have said they're doing everything they can to ensure hundreds of copy's of wikileaks (called mirror sites) are online. They're concentrating on that more than the DDoS attacks now but they will still continue to carry them out. Also the solicitor of the two women who accuse Assange of rape has had his website hacked a few times now.

Loads more info here: Julian Assange | Media | guardian.co.uk

 

[diamondtiling]

The group from the bulletin board 4chan (I wouldn't visit that if I were you!)


Now I want to have a look......

What might happen Dan?

 

[diamondtiling]

Just found this on the Washington Post website

4chan users seize Internet's power for mass disruptions

 

[mikethetile]

this is going to be a real battle of wits

 

[Dan]

4chan is an image board. But on it are the type of people who make and run botnets and other malware type stuff that use your computer in these attacks.

Julian has been released on bail and the police are keeping his passport, so I doubt he's going sweden any time soon.

Openleaks.org is another coming soon. You know Julian doesn't have a single charge against him in any country for any of the leaked documents. Openleaks will work a slightly different way in the sense that it'll become a medium of contact rather than a publisher itself. It'll be the middleman for new agencies and whistleblowers.

BBC news have changed their tune (they've probably been leant on by the government) and instead of calling wikileaks a whistleblowing website, they're now calling them "wikileaks rebels" lol

I bet the BBC has been in more whistleblowing news than wikileaks has to date. Wonder if they'd call themselves rebels.

 

[mikethetile]

thats a good point Dan but when the bbc do it its journalism in the public interest. im not sure how much of these leaks are in the public interest

he will be bailed if 250k is raised for bail, it doesnt look like extradition will happen unless its proved they have a reasonable case against him

I was chatting to my mate who flies supplies and personel in and out of Helmand , he was saying our boys are disgusted at the comments made by the us about british soldiers doing a poor job at the front, they have always known that the us are two faced now they have written proof. Helmand is in the us sector but our boys had to push on as the us werent available to take over when the taliban were pushed back out of british sector. our boys have had them pinned down for years now waiting for the us to meet the terms of the agreement made when we went in as part of nato

 

[Dan]

I'd have guessed our troops are just pawns for the US. They've even sent our lads in helmand when they though they would fail, we didn't. But that's verging on murder IMO.

I think the whole leak thing is a good thing. Perhaps the openleaks one will do it better than wikileaks has. The guy setting that up seems to think he can iron out all the issues wikileaks has. Whoever does it, it's news and it's out there now so it's too late. Nothing will stop 'em.

 

[mikethetile]

the truth will always out

which is a good thing, if the leaks are accurate then no one can complain

 

[DHTiling]

He is granted bail.. BBC News - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is granted bail

 

[Dan]

I thought he would be. It could take years for him to get extradited now. So I think unless the USA use our puppet government to pull some strings somewhere then he'll continue to do his work over here.