dot and dab

[Ste450]

So please, can anyone tell me how this is acceptable, but spot bonding with a high quality rapid set is not? Also they're showing 5 spots here whereas I'd use around 18-24 pushing to create near total coverage...

http://www.infotile.com/pdfFile/advicetopic/711201421931.pdf

 

[Old Mod]

So it seems to me the main cause of this discussion is nothing more than either, misinterpretation of the term 'Dotting and Dabbing' or regional dialect perhaps.
If your technique @Ste450 is to use enough adhesive to ensure a solid bed, then it wouldn't really be classed as 'Dotting and Dabbing'.
When that term is used on this forum, members immediately get an image in their head like this...


Well that's not the technique you describe is it?
and the trouble is, because of individual interpretations, that's what the majority of members imagine it to be.
Seems to me that this debate was nothing more than miscommunication, but it's good to talk, it clears the air!

 

[Andy Allen]

It must take for ever tiling that way..
Rather than combing the wall..or floor.
How many m2 can you do a day ?..-..and be honest...
And do you not run the risk of exceeding the manufacturer recommended thickness for the adhesive?-

 

[LM]

So it seems to me the main cause of this discussion is nothing more than either, misinterpretation of the term 'Dotting and Dabbing' or regional dialect perhaps.
If your technique @Ste450 is to use enough adhesive to ensure a solid bed, then it wouldn't really be classed as 'Dotting and Dabbing'.
When that term is used on this forum, members immediately get an image in their head like this...
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Well that's not the technique you describe is it?
and the trouble is, because of individual interpretations, that's what the majority of members imagine it to be.
Seems to me that this debate was nothing more than miscommunication, but it's good to talk, it clears the air!

Well said Marc, that's more along the lines of the way I picked it up.

 

[Flintstone]

I can't wait to be gobsmacked now!

 

[Ste450]

It must take for ever tiling that way..
Rather than combing the wall..or floor.
How many m2 can you do a day ?..-..and be honest...
And do you not run the risk of exceeding the manufacturer recommended thickness for the adhesive?-

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I'll fit a standard fully tiled bathroom in two weeks and it takes about 4 days to tile and grout. I'll do the whole lot from all the plumbing, the joinery work, plastering to the tiling.
If the wall is out, I know exactly how much adhesive I need to put on and where. It does take a litte bit longer than combing, but will look a lot better, well worth the extra bit of time it takes. The manufactures recommended thickness is there to cover their own arses. Ive done 20mm thickness in parts before now, that was 8 years ago, I still have access to the tile and it is very much sound. Use a good flexible adhesive, even on a solid floor and you'll have no problems. If the wall or floor is miles out then I will tell the customer and I will level it up, but if the wall is only out 1/8 or 1/4 I'll get it out with the adhesive. Don't get me wrong if the floor is perfect, I'll comb it, but it has to be absolutely bang on. Wall prep, I can get perfect when dry lining, but building studwork is a little different. No matter how true you try to get it it's always out a tiny fraction because of slight twists and bends in the timber and it only takes one or two to throw the wall out an 1/8 of an inch or more, which you can get out with the tile and adhesive, so it doesn't matter too much. I'll put some photos up today...

 

[Ste450]

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I can't wait to be gobsmacked now!

Feel free Localtiler

 

[widler]

I think most of us have built out walls , cos we all know blooody plasterers can't get owt straight , apart from me and my lads, we could make graham norton straight
I'm with 3fall , Ive read all the thread and most people are confusing 4/5 dabs to fullish dabs .
Love debates like this .
Nice bathroom ste .

 

[Flintstone]

Is this for real? Is it Kate j on the wind up?

 

[Andy Allen]

My mate 'StevieBoy' springs to mind.
Hang on ste450.....hmm the plot thickens..

 

[widler]

Who is that Andy ?

 

[Ste450]

Is this for real? Is it Kate j on the wind up?

Is that all you've got to say, Localtiler? Do those rooms look like they've been done in "cuckoo land?"

 

[Ste450]

I think most of us have built out walls , cos we all know blooody plasterers can't get owt straight , apart from me and my lads, we could make graham norton straight
I'm with 3fall , Ive read all the thread and most people are confusing 4/5 dabs to fullish dabs .
Love debates like this .
Nice bathroom ste .

 

[Ste450]

Cheers mate. I've not come on here to cause trouble, just to inform people that it can be done the way I do it as long as it's done properly using high quality cement based adhesive and using enough of it. I'm not going to do something that is going to damage my reputation and to be fair, it's been fine for 13 years

 

[hmtiling]

Cheers mate. I've not come on here to cause trouble, just to inform people that it can be done the way I do it as long as it's done properly using high quality cement based adhesive and using enough of it. I'm not going to do something that is going to damage my reputation and to be fair, it's been fine for 13 years

If your method works for you and you're achieving solid bed without exceeding adhesive depth limits then good for you mate.
The bathroom you've posted looks like a very nice job but as for people on here being 'gobsmacked', i think not. Also, compared to some on here, 13 years tiling is not a long time.