Thinking about things..

[Deleted member 9966]

Ehm, good for you, Liz, but that was not the point? The point was about being able to naturally experience the happy equivalent to pain, including physical pain, spontaneously, as part of life, not due to any circumstance - there is a slipped disc - intensily bad pain, and an ******, intensily great pleasure, but which one lasts longer? ... anhow....

sorry G, guess I missed your point. I don't measure my life by pain or pleasure though. I suppose in a way, I don't think too deeply about life and just get on with it.

 

[DHTiling]

Ehm, good for you, Liz, but that was not the point? The point was about being able to naturally experience the happy equivalent to pain, including physical pain, spontaneously, as part of life, not due to any circumstance - there is a slipped disc - intensily bad pain, and an ******, intensily great pleasure, but which one lasts longer? ... anhow....

Beer and an ******... wow! perfect thread..:lol:

 

[user123]

Beer and an ******... wow! perfect thread..:lol:

And her name was Stella.... :lol:

 

[andy8758]

When I was a teenager, the meaning of life and interpreting the latest Pink Floyd album, were contentitious and muchly debated issues. When you get old(er) you realise that life is really simple.

The meaning of life is evolution - a journey from the beginning to the end of time. The purpose of our humble human lives is to do our bit to this evolution of the life, the universe and everything. In plain words, we are here to create life that in turn creates better life. Sorry folks, but we may be here to have babies and nothing else!

Pleasure and pain are relative matters. What is painful to you may be painless to me. Your passion may not be mine. :7:

Physical pain may be seen as a limiter to our lives - it stops us doing things that harm our bodies - thereby slowing the evolution goal. Physical pleasure actually causes many of the same effects as physical pain - sweating, hyperventilating, shouting out loud, shaking, a mental focus entirely on the pain or pleasure. Physical pain is usually as short lived as physical pleasure. :whip:

Psychological pain and pleasure are emotions. If you enjoy an emotion or sensation - you invariably repeat it. The more you repeat it the more short-lived it becomes, until the point it may no longer cause us pleasure. You rarely enjoy a painful experience, and never repeat it - but the memory of it may live with you forever. Hence we tend to belive that pain lasts longer than pleasure.

:love: The hardest emotion to cope with is love. The pain of losing a loved one may never effectively end when (or if) we realise "that" will never be again. This is an extremely strong form of love - the loss of a loved one. Death and divorce remain the most traumatic events to cope with during our lives.

It is perhaps worth considering that we have evolved into creatures that over indulge in the pleasureable, diminishing its value, and belittling our pleasure emotions with our excess. Hence we may only enjoy the pleasure of now, and could have started a dangerous process of devolution back to the animals we once were. mg_smile:

 

[user123]

Physical pain is usually as short lived as physical pleasure - a lovely reply, Andy, I can otherwise relate to and agree with fully, but as to this point in bold, you and yours must have had a truly blessed and sheltered life to believe that, longmay it continue... and how easy that would be.... if you can find chronic physical pleasure as strongly and persistently as others battle chronic physical pain, then you are indeed awake to the degree I feel I might yet discover. but then you maybe a whole 21 months older than me... more to look forward then..

 

[DHTiling]

When I was a teenager, the meaning of life and interpreting the latest Pink Floyd album, were contentitious and muchly debated issues. When you get old(er) you realise that life is really simple.

The meaning of life is evolution - a journey from the beginning to the end of time. The purpose of our humble human lives is to do our bit to this evolution of the life, the universe and everything. In plain words, we are here to create life that in turn creates better life. Sorry folks, but we may be here to have babies and nothing else!

Pleasure and pain are relative matters. What is painful to you may be painless to me. Your passion may not be mine. :7:

Physical pain may be seen as a limiter to our lives - it stops us doing things that harm our bodies - thereby slowing the evolution goal. Physical pleasure actually causes many of the same effects as physical pain - sweating, hyperventilating, shouting out loud, shaking, a mental focus entirely on the pain or pleasure. Physical pain is usually as short lived as physical pleasure. :whip:

Psychological pain and pleasure are emotions. If you enjoy an emotion or sensation - you invariably repeat it. The more you repeat it the more short-lived it becomes, until the point it may no longer cause us pleasure. You rarely enjoy a painful experience, and never repeat it - but the memory of it may live with you forever. Hence we tend to belive that pain lasts longer than pleasure.

:love: The hardest emotion to cope with is love. The pain of losing a loved one may never effectively end when (or if) we realise "that" will never be again. This is an extremely strong form of love - the loss of a loved one. Death and divorce remain the most traumatic events to cope with during our lives.

It is perhaps worth considering that we have evolved into creatures that over indulge in the pleasureable, diminishing its value, and belittling our pleasure emotions with our excess. Hence we may only enjoy the pleasure of now, and could have started a dangerous process of devolution back to the animals we once were. mg_smile:

Are you sure you are MALE?
:lol:

 

[Dan]

That's bloody deep.

 

[andy8758]

Are you sure you are MALE?
:lol:

I am in touch with my feminine side.... :lol:

 

[SandyFloor]

I am in touch with my feminine side.... :lol:

Nothing to do with feminine, my friend, you're just someone who can think deeply

either that or you just copied and pasted it :lol:

 

[andy8758]

Physical pain is usually as short lived as physical pleasure - a lovely reply, Andy, I can otherwise relate to and agree with fully, but as to this point in bold, you and yours must have had a truly blessed and sheltered life to believe that, longmay it continue... and how easy that would be.... if you can find chronic physical pleasure as strongly and persistently as others battle chronic physical pain, then you are indeed awake to the degree I feel I might yet discover. but then you maybe a whole 21 months older than me... more to look forward then..

You have a very valid point about chronic illness. Perhaps I was a little too general with the term "usually."

 

[andy8758]

Nothing to do with feminine, my friend, you're just someone who can think deeply

either that or you just copied and pasted it :lol:

Wikipedia rules!!

Nothing that deep, in my previous career I had to sort out my Life Goal (when you are lying on your deathbed, looking back on your life, what do you want to have achieved?) That makes you clear all the muddle from your life, and go for it.

So now I am tiling lol!

 

[user123]

Exactly, Sandy, I also think about life and how I can develop further all the time .. there is more to us than just survival and procreation, there is a choice how to use the brainpower we have been given and are still continuously developing. Spiritual awareness is one thing and a subject just too big to get into here, and the ability to cope with and prosper in every day life another ... and still there is something more, like an itch you can't reach, but it has to do with developing abilities to take us beyond it all, but to succeed in that we have to be able to conquer pain first, to free ourselves up for what the urge to be positive for is all about .. ok, :lol: I stop now ... I know what I mean...

 

[DHTiling]

You have a very valid point about chronic illness. Perhaps I was a little too general with the term "usually."

My Wife suffers from a chronic none curable illness, i know all about that side of things and try not to get so serious over it.. hence my humour..


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[user123]

Wikipedia rules!!

Nothing that deep, in my previous career I had to sort out my Life Goal (when you are lying on your deathbed, looking back on your life, what do you want to have achieved?) That makes you clear all the muddle from your life, and go for it.

So now I am tiling lol!

After I finally came out of an anaesthetic I reacted badly to I had such a moment... and I decided from now on, no more practice, no more patients, - an yes to my deeper down love, art - so now I'm doing mosaics. :lol: It took that, being shocked into being aware that I easily could have been no more to make me alert to the true freedom I have to choose. Gives you the taste for it I suppose, mental freedom ... how exciting to find out what else I can do with it...

 

[jaguar66]

on pondering i think i have the answer bushmills its a lovely drink have to much tho and when you get up you fall over thats when the pain kicks in and it feels like it lasts for ages.