Update - What a Bodge in the Bathroom

[lawrenso]

Hi Guys,

just thought I would let you know - it is official, I have had an inspection carried out by a Tile Association registered company and it is basically a bodge job - he agrees with a full hack off and start again.

see thread here http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/18723-what-bodge-up-bathroom-3.html

Should have the written report with relevant extracts from the British Standards.

I will send a copy of it to the tiler, demanding payment in full if not it will be off to the small claims court. Who knows, maybe his dad will come round again :incazzato:

Thanks again for all your advice

Cheers

Steve

 

[lawrenso]

Thanks guys :hurray:

I can't use a solicitor if going to small claims court - you can't claim legal costs back because that is against the nature of that court track.

To be honest, even if he does declare himself, although it would be a great financial loss to us and may have to holiday locally, he will have to live 100 yrds from us and around people we know. At least I know for sure I am not being a finnicky bl££der :smilewinkgrin:

The only thing that I am prepared to accept now is full renumeration before court, if we go to court it will be all the court costs (which are as clear as mud to figure out - might be £80 or even £230:dizzy2🙂 and my missed time from work as I have a contract in place to provide services in Munich - so if the court case falls on a Monday/Friday - 1 day, another day 2 days except for a wednesday which would be 1 day plus flight costs).

I have gone above the minimum regarding the report - according to trading standards, an independant report from a tiler who hasn't quoted for the job, and I just need to get two further quotes in for the tiling although I have decided on using the people I have mentioned earlier - they have sent me a quote including ripping out which is a very tempting price as it will save me the next few weekends. The only problem being organising the bath fitting in between as that is currently booked to happen last weekend of this month.

As for payment - it was cash - a very dodgy line to cross if you withhold payment from a tradesman - you should pay and then claim money back. There were a couple in Bournmouth a year or two ago who witheld from a builder. The courts found the builder was shoddy but they were in the wrong for witholding the money. They couldn't claim legal costs and they had to sell the house to pay!!!

When the report comes I will scan and put up on here for you all to see.

Sorry about the essay - just tried to cover all your points.

I wonder if the tiler is keeping an eye on this forum......

Cheers Guys and Gals

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

hi lawrenso the payment method wasnt about with-holding as you are correct best to pay and claim back. it was just to see if you had something to say that he actually did the job just incase he denies all knowledge later. i know the poss of that is slight but dont want you having any more probs than necc. im sure you wont. good luck and keep us posted.

 

[lawrenso]

hi lawrenso the payment method wasnt about with-holding as you are correct best to pay and claim back. it was just to see if you had something to say that he actually did the job just incase he denies all knowledge later. i know the poss of that is slight but dont want you having any more probs than necc. im sure you wont. good luck and keep us posted.

aaaahhhhhh - the penny drops . He has admitted it in his letter to me (see previous thread) - short and curlies spring to mind :hurray:

I am smiling for the first time in ages :drool5:

Cheers

Steve

 

[tile55]

Hope everything goes well for you and good luck from me.
Mark

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

sorry did you did mention his letter in a earlier thread...get back everything that is owing mate....we all make mistakes but we have to own up to them and make it right.

 

[salmonfisher]

I have been following this thread since it started and totally agree that the fitting of tiles are sub standard but have some things to say
1, there are at a guess 24 sqm of porcelain tiles to be fitted in this bathroom at a cost of £350 approx £15 a sqm (very cheap) and he was not the cheapest
2, is this tiler working part time? because lawrenso noticed the botch up over 2 week ends
3, (2 walls are wet plastered and two are plasterboard on studs)10mm porcilin approx 28kg per sqm with 6mm bed, plastered walls max 20kg
4, I would have insisted on door facings tiling over a wooden door frame is asking for trouble slamming the door will loosen the tile
5,I wouldn’t have tiled it without the bath being in first
6, (when doing something for the first time I do countless research) if looking on this site he would probably found answers to most of the above
I am no way trying to condone bad workmanship in any way but there are 2 sides to every story and we have only heard 1

 

[chris.tiling]

good luck with it all and well done for persevering:hurray:

 

[tile55]

6, (when doing something for the first time I do countless research) if looking on this site he would probably found answers to most of the above
I am no way trying to condone bad workmanship in any way but there are 2 sides to every story and we have only heard 1[/quote]

This is quite true, we haven't heard from the :81:tiler, but I would say actions speak louder than words.
If you look at the state of the tiling work, and the letter justifying the method of fixing plus no resonable action to remedy the problems - what else are you supposed to do. I think that the tiler should be hanging his head in shame.
I've done work that I'm not 100% proud of, but nothing on the scale of the workmanship that is in this instance.
£15 per square metre in my opinion is way to low, especially for pocelain as is in a way a warning to protential customers/clients that cheapest is by no means the best. Take everything in mind, cost, pictures of previous work, on time, confidence etc.


Ps this is an open forum, so the so called tiler has a right of reply on here like everybody else - freedom of speech etc.

Ok rant over, have a good day.

 

[lawrenso]

Open Forum

Indeed it is and I have directed him to here - or rather his dad :incazzato: - and I did notice a guest viewing it for a while on the Sunday - but no counter posts. As for the weight - well I have gone off CTD when I explained what the substrates were. I think the tiles are under 10mm though.

CTD said they were within tolerance although looking at rectifying that when the tiles are ripped off (see other threads of mine)

SalmonFisher - don't get your point 4 - could you clarify please



Cheers

Steve

PS - 20 sqM of wall - total cost £490

 

[2Balls]

I think its time for the Tiler in question to have his say,as CDT said its an open forum, if your looking in, say your piece:welcome: 2balls