Update - What a Bodge in the Bathroom

[lawrenso]

Hi Guys,

just thought I would let you know - it is official, I have had an inspection carried out by a Tile Association registered company and it is basically a bodge job - he agrees with a full hack off and start again.

see thread here http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/18723-what-bodge-up-bathroom-3.html

Should have the written report with relevant extracts from the British Standards.

I will send a copy of it to the tiler, demanding payment in full if not it will be off to the small claims court. Who knows, maybe his dad will come round again :incazzato:

Thanks again for all your advice

Cheers

Steve

 

[2Balls]

Round, Hexaganle, coffin shape,corner baths etc,and the beat goes on. Bog standard is boring.

 

[2Balls]

If the bathroom is big enough I use a 1,20cm folding workbench, when not the floor,it helps against the Beer gut!:lol:

 

[lawrenso]

If the bathroom is big enough I use a 1,20cm folding workbench, when not the floor,it helps against the Beer gut!:lol:

Snap on the Beer Gut!!!!:hurray:

 

[lawrenso]

do you mean the architraves mate

you are absolutly right the tiles would loosen and likely fall off

no tiler would do such a thing even if its what the client asked for

i had a similar doorframe without archys , i used a tile trim just shy of the frame and then caulked the joint on the frame side

looked nice and neat when done, the client said to me i wondered how you would finish that bit, he was really pleased

This is what I wanted. That was the first thing that I picked him up for.

He took the trim right up to the edge of the door frame - and even over it. If you look at my original thread you will see the mess he made of the door so he could get it to fit back. The trim on the left of the door is actually curved. It was covering the cut out for the hinges at first. Somehow he was just about able to uncover them on that side. The striking plate for the lock is covered by the trim as well so unless the handle was pressed down fully, the trim would get kn@ckered. His excuse - I thought you wanted the wet room look :mad2:

The guy appears to be just an amateur in the light of day. Saw somebody tiling and thought - I can do that - couple of weeks later had a van and out tiling - that is from somebody who knows of him and knew the tiler he watched!!! Doubt he has even had any training at all. I know I must of approached it wrong in the initial engagement to have ended up in this position, but I just wish he had of held his hands up after a bit - I would of had more respect for him. And even last weekend he had the opportunity and wouldn't.......

The bath is an Idealcast P bath - 1700 x lots of different dimensions.

As for Part time - the wife kept on saying to me what the hell is he doing towards the middle of the second week. Not every hour of every day but he was there for a couple of hours at least each day over that week. It was when he grouted on the Thursday without the job being complete (I think it was) the Alarm bells really rang!!!!

Steve

 

[DHTiling]

Steve

Steve

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that was your wife when you came home for the week end....:lol:

 

[lawrenso]

Steve

Steve

Steve

that was your wife when you came home for the week end....:lol:

Damn - you got there before the edit :lol::lol:

This is me on the weekend home :20:

At least when she is not around that is

Steve

 

[2Balls]

After looking at the photo`s again, of the doorway Mikethetiler and Salmonfisher are right. Where`s that humble pie,I was under the impression the Archys would be fitted after2Balls

 

[lawrenso]

Further Update - What a Bodge in the Bathroom

Hi Guys,

well had the tiles ripped off yesterday. Managed to take a bit of video before I left for Munich that shows how bad the mosaics were stuck on and also "live footage" of me being able to poke things down the back of the tiles. The tiler who ripped off also found a lot of dot and dabbing along the wall where the door is - apparently one tile was stuck on with a single blob of cement :yikes:. Tiler had the use of my camera so I will see the photo's and post up the interesting ones for you to see at the weekend if I get chance (short weekend this weekend ).

I must say CTD Chester has come up trumps in a price to replace the tiles. A big thanks goes out to them from me and my family - although the original tiler will be the one who will be happy with the price (if you can be after being taken to small claims for the whole lot)

Cheers

Steve

 

[Leatherface]

Hi
I went down the small claims route a few years ago and it is not as easy as you would think to get your money.... very briefly things to consider are
After initial costs,
If guy does not reply to claim, then you will need to re apply to court, at a cost.
Then he may refute your claim, more costs to take it further
If you get a judgement and he does not pay, you will have to pay more money to take it further.
If you get that far he may be able to make an arrangement to pay a minimum amount each month, if he can prove that he cannot afford
If he defaults on his payments, you may have to re apply at a cost to take it further.

Not an easy route ! Can be costly, time consuming without guaranteed results

 

[CJ]

Good luck with it all Lawrenso

 

[lawrenso]

Hi
I went down the small claims route a few years ago and it is not as easy as you would think to get your money.... very briefly things to consider are
After initial costs,
If guy does not reply to claim, then you will need to re apply to court, at a cost.
Then he may refute your claim, more costs to take it further
If you get a judgement and he does not pay, you will have to pay more money to take it further.
If you get that far he may be able to make an arrangement to pay a minimum amount each month, if he can prove that he cannot afford
If he defaults on his payments, you may have to re apply at a cost to take it further.

Not an easy route ! Can be costly, time consuming without guaranteed results

Cheers Leatherface - to be honest - I know that, I know we can't really afford to loose the money - but we are committed. Every time we go to court it adds to his costs, although I have to pay it innitially, this is why I did not get a full Tile Association report done at a cost of £800+vat, but have had a report done by a member of the TA as it has minimised our financial exposure - but at least we will have the satisfaction of proving (legally) the guy done a dangerous and substandard job and refused to even consider putting it right - and I will shout it from the rooftops. Only citing our example though - but mud sticks. I know that now he won't be getting any work from our immediate area as the word has got around at the school gates...

Also, the guy lives 100 yards from us - we can see his van from our bedroom window so we could keep a diary if required of when he has been out all day - and their other car is a quite new Audi (although his "Daddy" works for them) - he will also have to look me in the face all the time and his wife will have to look my wife in the face everyday when their kid starts at the school.

Just depends how much of a second hand car salesman he still is I suppose (that is apparently what he used to be before thinking he was a tiler) - oh er.... and his wife works in recruitment - which in my line of work is one of the necessary evils we have to put up with unlike your good selves who should get the work on your merrits direct with the client.

I have met very little recruitment consultants who are honest (in fact only one - and he isn't in recruitment any more - perhaps that is why!!)

Steve

 

[lawrenso]

Hi All,

thought you might like to see some more photo's of the tiles "off the wall"

tilersforums.com | Tile Forums | Tiling Forum - lawrenso's Album: Bathroom nightmare

What surprised me is that quite a lot of the tiles came off pretty clean - which makes me wonder about the cement used to put them up with - almost looks like it hadn't adhered to the tile itself (ie over half or more of tiles were "clean" of addy!). I know you get the PorcelBond from BAL...is there cement that won't bond properly to Porcelain??

One that impresses me (NOT :mad2 has the tile trim on - this was above the door and one that the tiler was banging on to say this is going nowhere...

Steve

 

[DHTiling]

 

[DHTiling]

 

[DHTiling]

:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes: :yikes:



Lost for words steve......